Season 2, Episode 12: Hello 2021

Rosanna 0:14
Hello, and welcome to season two, Episode 12 of the relentless pursuit podcast. We’re calling this one Hello 2021.

Jordan 0:22
Hello.

Rosanna 0:22
This is the last episode of 2020. And the last episode of our second season. So thank you to all of you who have been listening during season one and Season Two and during all of 2020.

Jordan 0:34
Yeah, we really appreciate the opportunities to engage with you. So as folks have been listening, they’ve been sharing just their their thoughts, sharing with us some things that maybe we said that struck them, and maybe kind of like adding some of their own like two cents or perspectives or feedback, as well. So we’ve appreciated all those opportunities just to be able to engage with all of you. And as you listen to these, if there’s anything that stands out to you, I think one of the best things that we would recommend and really enjoy is if you shared either an episode or even a clip of something with someone else who you feel may benefit from whatever thoughts Rosanna and I are sharing with one another. And certainly any shoutouts on social media, we appreciate a great deal as well. So thank you to the many of you who have been doing that. And we’re hoping for a little bit more of that as we continue on as well.

Rosanna 1:29
All right, so what’s up ahead for these next four weeks.

Jordan 1:31
Alright, so this is the last episode of our second season. And just like at the end of our first season, we are going to go dark for about a month, and then we’ll come out with season three. So we each of our seasons so far has had 12 episodes, this being the 12th. One, we’ll take a few weeks off to make sure that we prepare everything for the next set of 12 that we’re pretty excited to bring you, too.

Rosanna 1:56
Yeah, that gives you some time in January to kind of refocus, recalibrate, get ready, and then we’ll kick off on Wednesday, February 3 with our first new episode. That’s right. All right. So you want to just do a quick recap of last week’s episode to kind of launch us forward.

Jordan 2:09
Yeah, I really enjoyed talking about last week’s episode because you you can’t have the conversation we’re about to have about 2021 without the one that we had last week about 2020. So the reflection really needs to come first. And we talked a lot during that conversation that we recorded, but also since then to just about what it was that we felt like 2020 brought to us and what we brought to it. So that was our reflection. And based on some of those takeaways that we shared with one another. We spent time over the past week really – we haven’t really talked about this together yet at all – but we’re really concentrating on what we would like to try to take advantage of in the upcoming year.

Rosanna 2:52
Yeah, I agree. As I was getting ready some of my notes for today to share. All I could think of was that song that we don’t really know the words to but plays after the New Year rings. Right. So it’s called Auld Lang Syne. So it’s an Irish song. And what that means is Auld Lang Syne is for old times sake. So the song is all about reminiscing the year that has gone by. And so we did that last week. But now we’re not going to dwell on the last year. That’s now behind us. But we’re going to move forward. And so today’s episode is really all about kind of setting goals, making a plan, having a vision for what’s ahead.

Jordan 3:33
Alright, well, let’s bring in the new year here. Looking forward to celebrating the turning of the page.

Rosanna 3:43
Here we go. You know what, there’s one thing though, that I do want to address that maybe we didn’t say last last week. And that’s what that 2020 was hard. So if you didn’t achieve your goals from last year, and you’re barely hanging on, I feel like that’s okay. Be proud that you’re still here that you’re still standing. Because sometimes that’s more than enough. And I don’t think we give people enough credit sometimes for just just surviving. It’s some people are meant to thrive and for others, it’s it’s just about survival.

Jordan 4:14
Yeah. Yeah. I don’t think we can hold you know what happened this past year against ourselves. And if we are, in a, say it in a tough spot, I think we’re looking forward to like what 2021 may bring. And I really appreciated the just the conversation we were able to have with Jason Waller in Episode 10, talking about resiliency. And I feel like there’s some great takeaways from that just personally, that I’m hoping to just bring to my mindset to my attitude towards what’s ahead. But yeah, 2020 was extremely challenging for many of us.

Rosanna 4:47
Yeah. You know, this is what I love when we have these conversations because I wanted to bring up that conversation of resiliency too. Because really those three kind of takeaways for him we’re focusing on what you can control, finding gratitude for what you do have, and then finding ways and solutions to move forward. So really, goal setting is a powerful process. And it helps you to choose where you want to go. And so that’s what this episode is all about: choosing where we want to go moving forward. And just like all of our conversations, like it comes back to intentionality, like the life we want won’t just happen, you need a plan. Sometimes you need a challenge, and some accountability. So we need to cultivate our days and our time. And so that’s what today’s episode is all about.

Jordan 5:29
Yeah, yeah, like that. Because I don’t want I don’t want 2021 to dictate to me what my opportunities or limitations are. I mean, there there is an extent to which that is inevitable. But I think that we have much more in control than sometimes we are aware of, and it takes this process to really make sure that we leverage that moving forward.

Rosanna 5:52
All right. So do you want to dive into just kind of what our goals and what our plans are? Or,

Jordan 5:59
Well I can’t talk about our goals? And we haven’t we know, we

Rosanna 6:01
haven’t, I can talk about my already mine. Okay.

Jordan 6:05
Yes, but I, I’m kind of curious, like, I have a sketch right now. And I think everyone needs to know that this is a process. So we can’t just sit down and real quickly, like scribble outside. Okay, next year, I have goals one, two, and three, because it, maybe it comes like that quickly to to some of us or maybe some folks have have put some thought into it ahead of time. But for me, at least, like there is a process to it. So I consider what I have now to be a draft, you’re going to give me feedback on my draft. And I really think over the course of the next month like this is going to become more refined and more clear. Rather, the more thought I put into what’s the most feasible and what’s the most just kind of like the biggest goals that I really want to put my time and attention towards.

Rosanna 6:50
Yeah, and I think you’re right, because you’ve made some lists of some notes, I’ve made some lists, but then what we’ll do probably within the next couple weeks is kind of like go through it together and kind of see where we are individually, how we can craft that around what we want our family to like our family time and things to look like how we can help support each other. So this conversation is a jumping off point. I’ve picked some practical things that I could share with our audience that really have nothing to do with you or us it’s more about like me, and then we kind of like work those those things in but when we’re talking about setting goals, I think there’s a number of levels in which you can set goals or resolutions or plans or you know, however you want to look at it. You have

Jordan 7:31
so you have different levels to what suits you.

Rosanna 7:34
Yeah I think last year I looked at like big picture, like what certain categories bigger pictures and breaking them down into like smaller targets that I could like keep track of. So I think that’s something that people can do. You know, you brought up the questions last year, how do I want this year to look? How do I want this year to feel? So like, it could be more of like a like more setting intentions. A lot of people choose words of the year like that they want to frame everything under like a certain word. You know, I had a word last year and it was “cultivate.” And so I thought it was going to be about like cultivating my business and like cultivating, like, there’s certain things that like it fell under that umbrella. And what’s funny is like about like six months in so this was in June, I pulled out my goal planner, and I was like, This word is being used in a far different way than I had ever imagined. It was about cultivating our kids and our family and the shift and the focus of our life. And so it’s interesting to see how the, the direction I thought that word was gonna drive me, you know, just out of the things that I could not control, it kind of took a whole nother path. And so it’s kind of beautiful to kind of see how that transpired. But it wasn’t necessarily what I intended.

Jordan 8:41
Yeah. So you’re saying like everyone has really their own way of going about this? I’m sure you have. And you have a way that’s a little bit different than mine as well. And I don’t really even do it the same way twice. So the way I went about constructing my vision for 2020 looks different than what I ended up coming up with this year.

Rosanna 8:59
Okay, so do you want to start or do you want me to start,

Jordan 9:02
I kind of want you to go first because I think it’s gonna make me reflect on what I have. And maybe even I’ll modify it as we go.

Rosanna 9:08
Hey, we’re all different. So it’s all gonna look different. So I think I’m gonna start with I was thinking about those two questions. What do I want this year to look like? How do I want it to feel? And I tied that to like having a word for the year. So I just shared that last year’s word was “cultivate.” I feel like the word that I want to kind of focus on this year is the word “engage” or “engaged.” I want to be all in and with like the caveat that I want to be all in, in whatever area or arena I’m in. And however the year kind of takes us what however the nuance of the year goes like I’m just going to be engaged in whatever’s in front of me. So that means my business is booming because now people are making up for weddings and people are getting vaccinated and there’s weddings every week. I’m like, I’m going to be all in and if it means – and if it also means that my kids are home for another school. You’re and they’re going to need me like, then I’m going to be all in. And if it means something else entirely, like whatever that is, I’m going to be all in. So that’s kind of like big picture is that I’m going to be engaged. Because I think for part of this year, what ended up happening to me is, because everything shift, and I’m home, and I’m managing elearning, and whenever I felt a little, like, disengaged and distracted –

Jordan 10:22
Yeah, cuz you were still trying to function along playing A. And then meanwhile, we threw out plan A without your permission –

Rosanna 10:30
and then I didn’t change my goals accordingly. So looking back to last year, I had all these great goals, these great intentions that the first three months of the year, months of the year, I was nailing. And then I didn’t like reassess and like, plan new goals. So that’s kind of I want to be all in and engage. That’s how I want my year to look, that’s how I want it to feel. And that means if things shift, then I need to be all in wherever I can. Or wherever the year it takes me. So in having said that, I have goals, would you want me to just go and then you can just kind of go after me

Jordan 11:05
Fire away, and I’ll add my two cents accordingly.

Rosanna 11:08
So I have some business goals that I’m not going to share, I have some family goals. And

Jordan 11:12
You should share those. Or just some of those go without saying? You want to grow your business –

Rosanna 11:16
There are certain things that like, you know, I shared last week that would, you know, still be similar. But these are some specific things. And they’re based on what’s funny is they’re based on a lot of the conversations we’ve had on the podcast this year. And I’m what I’m thinking is, you know, kind of turning this into a blog post, then I’ll throw up on the blog, because people can read through it a little bit better. But, I mean, our conversations have inspired me to look at some of these specific areas. And the first one is phone usage. And so instead of adding goals and picking things up and trying to one more thing, I need less of it. You I You and I are very different. I’m always on my phone, you know that I know even just to look at me, and I’m like, Don’t judge me like I’m on my phone disengaging because I’m overwhelmed.

Jordan 11:58
If that is a goal of yours, then I very willingly support you in this endeavor.

Rosanna 12:12
So I want less of it less time on my phone, stop wasting time and work on a plan to like really like not cold turkey because like I need it for like I want to use it as a tool for my business, or is it you know, tool for this or that but to the mindless scrolling and like the incessant time on it is too much. So that’s my first goal.

Jordan 12:32
Yeah. And frankly, I’m, I’m kind of like, over like the phone too. Like, it’s just, it’s, it’s I feel like it’s just always with me, like where is Oh, it’s in my pocket. It’s like the one ring from from Lord of the Rings where it’s like, oh, I thought I put it over there? No, actually, it’s in my pocket. And like, like, it’s just always on your mind. And it kind of turns you over time like into this. And so yeah, actually, that was one of the things I’ve listed too, for myself. But I think we’ve talked about that a lot this year. So now it’s time to almost like develop a new habit that’s oriented towards your phone.

Rosanna 13:04
So I haven’t made the steps yet. Or like how I’m going to like like, maybe my phone locks itself and I can’t get it. Like, I just feel like it’s a problem. Like, it’s legitimately a problem. I am on it too much. And so that’s my first thing. And by setting that goal, I think that’s gonna allow for some of my other goals to reemerge because it’s wasting my time.

Jordan 13:23
I think so too. And it it’s distracting. It kind of steals you into this, this digital world where if you want to be engaged like this, probably not what you need most of the time.

Rosanna 13:32
It doesn’t make me stronger, or happier, or it does nothing for me –

Jordan 13:36
I have an app on my phone so I can control the devices on the network.

Rosanna 13:41
Whoo, that’s right. Yeah. Okay, let’s not talk about it.

Jordan 13:45
All right, we’ll work through the practicality.

Rosanna 13:47
So I think that’s gonna just open up a lot of time. And it’s gonna open up a lot of like, peace and clarity for me, which kind of goes into my second goal, which is I have a reading goal this year. Okay. And so the first one is about less. And this one is about more. 2020 was actually the year in the last five years that I’ve read the least amount. I just because we’ve had way more time, except there’s kids here all the time, and dogs and all of these crazy things. But so I have these kind of micro goals, which is I’d like to read six books in the first six months of the year. So a book a month, and then 20 total for the year.

Jordan 14:24
Alright, so –

Rosanna 14:25
A minimum of six in the first six months, which is a book a month –

Jordan 14:27
So you better pick up the pace because you don’t want to be stuck reading 14

Rosanna 14:31
Because of summer and whatnot. Okay, one one of my goals last year was to, like enjoy and disengage more like by your like relaxing. And so the six books I did read were all fiction. And that’s the first time I’ve read fiction and probably like three years, it’s always been like nonfiction about learning and growing. And so like, while I met that goal, just the amount of time I spent reading was a lot less and I think it was because I was on my phone a lot more. And so I think those two are related.

Jordan 14:59
Okay. Well, one of those books can be the book club book for The Relentless Pursuit Podcast Season Three.

Rosanna 15:05
Maybe. But I am going to share what I chose for my first book, okay, in case people are interested in what we’re reading, or maybe they need a book. This is called Atomic Habits. It’s tiny changes, remarkable results and easy and proven way to build good habits and break bad ones. So I think that’s the first one I’m going to dive in.

Jordan 15:21
Where did you get that? I haven’t seen that before. I bought it on Amazon. Okay, okay.

Rosanna 15:25
I like when Amazon packages arrive when you’re not here. Guilt-free shopping, ladies and gentlemen. All right, number three, we had a whole episode about hobbies and hustles. And it got me thinking about the fact that I feel like I’m lacking in hobbies. Although I’ve been working out consistently and I’ve even like tried yoga this year, which has been like good for me. Like, I feel like that’s like in a health category. And I wanted something like a little bit more creative and artsy, to kind of like, help inspire me. And so I thought about this a lot. I’ve researched a little bit and I think I want to learn calligraphy.

Jordan 16:00
Yes, you’d be very good at that.

Rosanna 16:02
Because, right, my graphic design background, and I am artsy, like I can draw pretty well. And it’s something I’ve always wanted to do. I can take classes online, they send you a kit, they do like e-courses, and actually someone who does that actually lives like right here in Bloomingdale that I know, we’ve partnered before on events for wedding, she actually does like stationery and calligraphy. And so I contacted her and like, I’m excited. So something just for me something creative, and fun.

Jordan 16:26
There you go, and then you could use so you’re saying you could use that, like, you know, within the context of your business, but it’s really, it’s just something you’re personally interested in. And you’re like, I want to learn more. See where this goes.

Rosanna 16:36
And so I’m going to spend a little money by the kit, like do some online zoom classes, like when they have some in person ones, like maybe take one and like, find something fun to do. Instead of it always being about work or learning. Something to let go.

Jordan 16:49
You’re still learning. Well, yeah, but nice, fun, fun learning,

Rosanna 16:52
But not like because I need to grow my business or a podcast or something like that. Number four is a gratitude journal. I thought a lot about this. We’ve been talking a lot about being grateful. And I do want to extend throughout the whole year. And so I picked up another book. And this one is 52 weeks of gratitude of one year journal, and it says to reflect, pray and record thankfulness. So it’s broken up for one week of the year and it’s a different topic. So it’s not like okay, what are you grateful for today? So like, week one, rest week three, hospitality. week seven laughter week eight,

Jordan 17:23
What’s week 41?

Rosanna 17:26
Week eight is laundry day can’t wait. Week 41: trees.

Jordan 17:31
All right. So you really cover the whole gamut there. So does this count is one of your 20 books?

Rosanna 17:36
Not one of my 20 books? No.

Jordan 17:37
I would say so.

Rosanna 17:39
No, I mean, there’s things to read and things to consider. And it’s broken up by category. But I do I want to be more grateful for not just the big things, but the little things. So and it’s a good way to write and reflect and pray. And so I’m going to try it. So 52 weeks of gratitude. Target has it. Amazon has it.

Jordan 17:57
We could put a link to these on our site, in case anyone’s interested too.

Rosanna 18:01
And then the last big one I’m going to share is generosity. This one’s been on my mind a lot lately. I know some people would characterize us as generous, like will donate to causes or will volunteer our time. But I feel like and we’ve been talking about this the last few years, like we really want to, like find our cause or some causes and back them or participate more heavily. And I feel like it’s really time to do that. So I have not yet researched like what it’s going to be, but I want to commit to it. I want to commit to something outside of myself. And I want it to be more than just like writing a check. Or when someone has like a yeah, like a donation thing like or doing you know doing it –

Jordan 18:37
You should do those. It’s almost like too easy though. It’s like the problem is out there somewhere. And like you go here some money like go, good luck with that.

Rosanna 18:45
Yeah. So I want to that’s something I want to work on with you is like what can we maybe commit to what are we interested in ias maybe a family and even get the entire family involved in that? That cause Yeah. Okay. And then this is just like a little nuance thing. I have I get a planner every year, I have a commit 30 planner, and they do these things where like, you should just commit to 30 day challenges. It’s not something that has to like last all year or quarterly, but like doing something 30 days at a time. So maybe like doing maybe doing some of these together or apart but like doing something like a dry January like 30 days no alcohol or no sweets in February or committing to like, run or walk a certain number of miles for a month and you know, just like as a way to be because we are a little competitive, but builds good healthy habits.

Jordan 19:33
All right. Yeah. Actually, the healthy competition is not a bad idea.

Rosanna 19:37
So yeah, so that’s just kind of some of the things that I’m looking at. Not all of them but some of them.

Jordan 19:43
Yeah, on my list the two there’s some things I didn’t even write down because it almost like goes without saying it’s like well, I want to call my parents every week. Well, it kind of goes without saying like, I’m gonna do that. Or what was another one like, like, try to like be a better dad and find fun things to do with The kids like it, that’s gonna happen. So I don’t need to write that down. I don’t need to focus on that, because that’s already just where my natural inclination is. So there’s there’s definitely there’s some overlap. So the good news is there’s some overlap with what we’ve, we’ve both come up with. So I’ll get to those.

Rosanna 20:15
I like that. Because to me, that just means we we are growing together. And we are like minded and we’re trying to get to our final destination together. So that makes me think.

Jordan 20:26
What’s the final destination? That’s a little dark.

Rosanna 20:30
relentlessly pursuing a life worth living together! Come on!

Jordan 20:32
It’s the pursuit. It’s the journey along the way. I don’t know if there is a destination, somewhere one I really good eulogy. Okay, um, so the way I organize this, let me cover that first is that I have various, I would say categories here. But like, last year, the categories were, I don’t know more. Shoot, I’m gonna use the word categorical. It’s stupid. But it was like personal, professional, finance, you know, those kinds of categories? I don’t have those categories this year. What I did was I listed, I have six different categories. But I’ve one kind of overarching, guiding question. So let me share the guiding question that it was, “Who do I want to be in 2021?” Not what do I want to do? Or what goals do I have to set? Sometimes? Those are like the first questions that I base everything off of, but I’m looking at this conversation at the end of next year. And I want to think alright, “Who was I?” Was I the kind of person that I know, I I really feel like I ought to be. Because I think pretty often we’re not or we don’t stop to ask that question. So I wrote down two things in response to that, who do I want to be? The first one is to have an increased awareness and care of others around me. Right. And I think I can, sometimes I have so many, like goals or things that I’m working on that I just try to channel my energy towards those, to the extent that I am I lose, it’s not like I’m uncaring, but I can genuinely increase – it’s not like develop – but actually increased my awareness and care. That goes for you. It goes for the kids that goes for the extended family that goes for neighbors, for colleagues, for everyone I come in contact with, and even people I’ve never met. So we were like, talking about causes and things. So kind of have this others-orientedness to an extent that I have not demonstrated in previous years.

Rosanna 22:41
I’m super proud of you. I am like it really, I’m like, slightly choked up about it. Because you are very goal-oriented. And you’re very like focused on like, what you want to get done. And it’s never at the expense of others, but you’ve never really like thought about like maybe that caring for others is just as important as whatever that goal is.

Jordan 23:05
Yeah. Right. No one ever regrets, like, you know, doing a good, a good thing, right? A good deed, and but it’s hard to do it in the first place, because it’s putting others first.

Rosanna 23:15
I think that’s gonna be hard for you. I’m not gonna lie.

Jordan 23:17
Well, that’s it. That’s why it’s not because you’re a bad person to focus on it. Yeah.

Rosanna 23:22
Okay, go ahead.

Jordan 23:23
Alright, so then. So that was the first thing I came up with. The second thing was I want to be committed to consistently doing the things I care about and know that work. Because I mean, so many times, we’re like, Well, I know, like what I should be doing in this instance. But I don’t do that, like we default to maybe habits that we know aren’t as constructive for ourselves. And I know, I can certainly do that. So just recognize, like, Alright, like, I’m 37 years old here, okay, I know what works life, I don’t need to like, kind of play around with life anymore. Like I kind of kind of figured out like the things that work and the things that don’t, for the most part. So just almost like take my own advice and be like, No, I don’t need that. Or I do need this and actually do it. Alright, so those, those are two of the guiding things. So a lot of the things that I list are stemming off of those. So here’s my six categories that that ended up evolving into, and there’s tons of overlap overlap here. In anyone listening like I don’t, I don’t think like these needs to be like strictly like defined. It’s just just a matter of putting it down and thinking through it. So someone listening is going to be like, well, like what he puts in one category could easily go in another, it doesn’t matter. So the first one was what I want to maintain. And I feel like there’s a lot of good things, but I wrote down two in particular, I wanted to write down like working out, because this year I’ve been the most consistent with that. And I feel like I’m in a good spot. I’d like to keep that going. And our intentional times together. We I think that fluctuated throughout the year. But that’s one thing I would really like to enjoy and maintain me and you.

Rosanna 25:04
All right, all right, I’m on board.

Jordan 25:06
Alright, so the next category is things to improve. So stuff that has happened. But I would like to continue on that trajectory. One is with eating, I’ve taken a new interest. And you know, I used to like to look at people who are like vegetarians or vegans and be like, That’s weird. And now I’m now thinking like, they might be onto something. So I’m not gonna give up meat or anything like that. But I’ve been enjoying salads a great deal more. And which really surprised me. And you know, I’d like to –

Rosanna 25:32
well, when you put like quinoa, and chickpeas and butternut squash –

Jordan 25:37
I’ve been impressed with the salad world this year. Yeah. All right, this one’s a little bit more philosophical. But I would like to improve in knowing what I stand for. Right. And I think I as well as many others, can be very quick to like, have a stance on something, or to take a side or to be part of a tribe and just kind of follow along, I would like to be able to articulate to myself, I’m not thinking of that, to what extent we can engage with others, but to myself, I’d like to be able to really articulate here’s the stance, I take on like this particular issue or aspect. And here’s the reasons why. And having reasons why. I’d like to improve just with money management. I mean, that almost goes without saying, but that my attention to detail fluctuates. So I’d like to improve with the consistency of that. And another one, too, that will filter into a few others is I like to ask for advice and feedback more often.

Rosanna 26:35
Okay.

Jordan 26:37
Habits, morning routines, like, I’ve had one. So I want to like maintain and even just kind of make sure that I adhere to that. So we’ll talk maybe about more about morning routines in a different show next season. And I’ve wrote on electronics too, because I use my electronics differently than you. But I feel the same way where it’s a lot of unnecessaryness, the thing is always with me, I can just leave it and open up some mental space to engage with what is actually around me. I wrote down a few 30 day experiments as well. Right. So this is where there’s this aligns. And the idea of the experiment, I think, is just to see it’s like, let’s see what happens. Let’s see how I feel during and at the end of this. And it’s not like a year, sometimes we make a year long commitment. And it just becomes too much. And it becomes like frustrating. And then we feel like we let ourselves down. 30 days is manageable. So I did – I’m actually this is what I’m going to do January one is no alcohol or caffeine. Now, okay, I do more morning coffee. But you know, I’ll have like coffee or espresso like in afternoons or evenings pretty often too. And then I’ll often have like wine with dinner or something. But I wanted almost like see how I feel in the evenings. Because we’ve talked about that as well is like just know those chemicals kind of messing with your body at night. So I just want to see what happens, like, how do I feel? If I take out that for 30 days? Well,

Rosanna 28:10
I’m part of that is journaling about how you feel and being a little bit more in tune to your body and kind of paying attention.

Jordan 28:16
Yeah. Another thing with that is 30 days, no sweets. So I think you mentioned the exact same two things. So we can do that together. I would love you might like this one, because it involves you. I would love 30 consistent days, 30 consecutive days of having, like some quality, like just conversation with you every night. Oh, so we do it, like once a week, which I really like. But what would be like if we just did 30 days in a row?

Rosanna 28:46
Well, that’s not to say that we don’t see each other don’t talk. It’s just like the level of how deep we go.

Jordan 28:53
30 to 60 minutes before we we fall asleep. And I’d like to take 30 days just to kind of exclude you and spend like 30 to 60 minutes just writing. And that goes along with some of the goals too. So those are four experiments that I have a couple to do’s that go along with that is to I’d like to see nutritionist this year. I’d like to see a sleep specialist as well. Just like ask for advice from experts in this case and try to improve myself. And I don’t know about what yet but I’d like to take a class. All right, so you’re doing a class one class. Alright, and finally, the final category was actual goals. Right? So those were a lot of like, a lot of like lists and to dues of minor things right? It’s

Rosanna 29:36
good like things to consider things to try nothing that like you know, the even your two dues and your 30 minute or your 30 day – you know, things just kind of happen.

Jordan 29:44
Yeah. Alright, so let me rattle through these real quick. I want to do something new and surprising. I don’t even know what yet something that I would I was not really within my context of experience so far. I would like to explore the concept of goodness and to become more others-oriented. And that goes along with or would like to be consistent – And I want to wait how do I phrase this? I have consistent and surprising charity with my time, money and energy. I want to write more especially about education. Write fiction, and another vague one, my last goal, is to get obsessed with something interesting, right? just kind of let myself go and be like, you know what, I am truly obsessed with that. I don’t know what it’s gonna be.

Rosanna 30:29
Well, I like your guiding questions. I like kind of like your overall umbrella. I love what you have written for this year. I think these are all things that you’ve been thinking a lot about. And I can tell. And what is the one thing I always tell you, when you come up with your lists. There’s something I say to you.

Jordan 30:47
It’s too much. It’s too ambitious. There’s too many things I can be what’s a phrase,

Rosanna 30:51
I think I can you can do anything, but you can’t do everything. So I’m going to share that with you here live, some people are probably like, this guy is crazy. You know, some people set one goal, I want you to feel fulfilled this year, I want you to take those risks and those challenges. So we just got to make the intentional time to support each other through those things.

Jordan 31:12
Yeah. And I, I’m looking, I’m already imagining their conversation a year from now, as I’ll pull out this exact same sheet of paper. And we’ll kind of talk through how did it go? What did we change or add or take off that list as the year went on?

Rosanna 31:28
Yeah. And I think what will help maybe this year too is posting these like, we always have them written somewhere, but it’s in something that’s like closed or but like on our kitchen, little cork board or somewhere where

Jordan 31:38
I think you meant like online, so others could keep track of us.

Rosanna 31:40
– just so that we can see them remind each other keep ourselves accountable, right? Hang on the fridge every time you open it and you’re looking at what am I going to get obsessed with?

Jordan 31:48
Well, you know, what I do every year is I do type these up, and then I put them at the very top of my annual diary, annual jordiz log. And so every time I open that up, that’s the very first thing that shows up is here’s the list of things that you are pursuing this year. And then as I write about each day, you know, the question naturally comes up, how does this day match to the bigger vision that I have for myself?

Rosanna 32:13
Right? Well, thank you guys for listening this week. Thank you for being with us in 2020. And we hope that you take some time, whether it’s before 2021 kicks off, or even during the month of January. Yeah, I mean, we’re maybe you’re going to replace the time that you’ve listened to us each week for 30 to 60 minutes with some time to kind of set some goals. So you know, ask yourself, who do you want to be? What do you want this year to look like? How do you want to feel? What’s your word? Do you need to set big picture goals or small targets? Do you want to challenge yourself and your spouse? You know, what is it that you want to do? Take some time and think about it, dream about it, plan for it. Invest in yourself, invest in each other, and be intentional about cultivating the year in the life that you say you want.

Jordan 33:01
Really excited about what’s coming up in 2021. And we hope that you are as well. So thank you so much for listening today. Thank you for listening all season. And we’ll look forward to seeing you next year.

Rosanna 33:13
Yeah, Happy New Year.

Jordan 33:14
Happy New Year, everyone.

Bye Bye.